speedforce

[calmlydisturbed]

Okay so when Barry was struck by lighting he created the speed force and when he runs he's the engine for it. The Professor Zoom made it to where he was struck by lighting the same way and created the negative speed force. Well Wally was struck the same way Barry and Zoom but he didn't get his own speedforce nor is he an engine for Barry's when he runs.

[negu]

@_@ The whole thing's beautiful but...jinkies. For me...a newer fan...everything is really hard to learn. hehe.

[jonqcitizen]

I'm sure at some point along the line Geoff Johns will explain how and what Speedforce someone will be in.....whether they subconsciously choose one or the other Speedforce based on their predisposition toward good or evil (though there have been evil Speedsters who tap into the Speedforce.....Savitar & Black Flash for instance), or something else.

Plus, consider that Zoom's Negative Speedforce is NEW, so it may take a while to get his own "stable" of Speedsters and work out the details of how and when that happens. TRUST GEOFF JOHNS!!....You've all seen what he did with Green Lantern right?

[dreg]

I get that Johns wanted to make Barry Allen central to the legacy, but this specific tampering of the speed force dynamic cost most of the other speedsters any important place in the legacy or the ability to create their own legacies. Here's my biggest example, and people can tell me if I'm being too weird about this:

Irey West is not a speedster because her father was Wally West. She's a speedster because her great uncle whom she never met before was Barry Allen, and they shared the same sense of justice. Wally's own daughter is a member of the Flash family not because of her ties to her own father, but because of her ties to Barry Allen. That just seems weird to me.

I like Barry Allen as character, but I think having him as the engine of the speedforce and also the standard by which all other Flashes get their powers kind of hurts the legacy. This is because while before the Flash mantle was bigger than any one person, now Barry Allen is bigger than any one Flash. Barry Allen is bigger than the mantle. I hope Flashpoint revises this somehow.

[jonqcitizen]

Mar 30, 2011 12:21:13 GMT -5 dreg said:

I get that Johns wanted to make Barry Allen central to the legacy, but this specific tampering of the speed force dynamic cost most of the other speedsters any important place in the legacy or the ability to create their own legacies. Here's my biggest example....Irey West.....I like Barry Allen as character, but I think having him as the engine of the speedforce and also the standard by which all other Flashes get their powers kind of hurts the legacy......now Barry Allen is bigger than any one Flash. Barry Allen is bigger than the mantle. I hope Flashpoint revises this somehow.

I do kind of agree with that take, it does kinda feel as though all the other Speedsters; rather than "enveloped by" and "searching the mysteries of" the Speedforce, are just looking to Barry Allen. However, that kind of reminds me of how the greater DCU looks at Superman.....so not necessarily a bad thing, just different.

I personally prefer Wally West to Barry Allen, but I'm willing to give Johns the benefit of the doubt.....that he has some master plan to put everything in an order that will dignify the other Speedster's relativity & legitimize Barry's "carrying" the mantle.

I'm with you that my hope is Flashpoint will give some definite answers to these issues.